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		<title>Comment on Islam Analysis (15): Money can&#8217;t buy quality research by Muhammad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The article notes that this practice is similar to UK universities ‘shopping’ for prolific scientists just before research quality assessments, in order to ensure a higher evaluation and funding for future research.

But claiming credit for a scientist who does not engage in meaningful research with researchers at the university in question, or using work unaffiliated with the university to bump up rankings, is certainly suspect.&quot;

I disagree with the author&#039;s assessment of this practice in UK/Australia. Actually, when these Universities hire a prolific academic in time for  the research quality assessment, all of the academic&#039;s prior publications for the assessment period are counted towards his/her new employer. 

The publications need  not reflect any prior relationship between that academic and their new employer. 

Certainly, an associate professor from my Institution (University of Melbourne) was offered a Professorship at a less research-intensive institution (Deakin University) so his publications could be counted for the latter&#039;s profile. 

I do however agree that the intentions of the Saudi Universities are less honorable in the sense that they deliberately intend to maintain only a casual relationship with academics whilst reaping the rewards of a formal relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The article notes that this practice is similar to UK universities ‘shopping’ for prolific scientists just before research quality assessments, in order to ensure a higher evaluation and funding for future research.</p>
<p>But claiming credit for a scientist who does not engage in meaningful research with researchers at the university in question, or using work unaffiliated with the university to bump up rankings, is certainly suspect.&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree with the author&#8217;s assessment of this practice in UK/Australia. Actually, when these Universities hire a prolific academic in time for  the research quality assessment, all of the academic&#8217;s prior publications for the assessment period are counted towards his/her new employer. </p>
<p>The publications need  not reflect any prior relationship between that academic and their new employer. </p>
<p>Certainly, an associate professor from my Institution (University of Melbourne) was offered a Professorship at a less research-intensive institution (Deakin University) so his publications could be counted for the latter&#8217;s profile. </p>
<p>I do however agree that the intentions of the Saudi Universities are less honorable in the sense that they deliberately intend to maintain only a casual relationship with academics whilst reaping the rewards of a formal relationship.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Islam and Science &#8211; The Troubled Relationship by Khawar Sohail</title>
		<link>http://www.muslim-science.com/islam-and-science-the-troubled-relationship-ziauddin-sardar/#comment-4089</link>
		<dc:creator>Khawar Sohail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 13:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant account of the historical development of Islamic Science and its progression through the centuries, make a wonderful read and has paved for broad based understanding of the relationship between Islam and Science and dispelled the myths of the two being diametrically opposed. Jazakallah for this commendable effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant account of the historical development of Islamic Science and its progression through the centuries, make a wonderful read and has paved for broad based understanding of the relationship between Islam and Science and dispelled the myths of the two being diametrically opposed. Jazakallah for this commendable effort.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Islam Analysis (9): Muslim countries need a &#8216;forward bloc&#8217; by fuad</title>
		<link>http://www.muslim-science.com/islam-analysis-9-muslim-countries-need-a-forward-bloc/#comment-4007</link>
		<dc:creator>fuad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the D8 and the agricultural  and urban issue focus could really be a goer. There are lots of ethical, justice and human issues there and a collaborative venture would at least produce some content of immediate benefit. they could even pull in one of the stans and go for a satellite launch.

but these things need political animation and to be linked to the rest of the ummah states.

The d8 was erbakan&#039;s baby, and Erdogan is different from Erbakan. We&#039;d need an alignment of epistemic political windows in a majority of the 8.

Its not so simple even with members of the 8. e.g how do you think a nigerian igbo non muslim would feel about contributing to d8 civilisational movement if he is also collaborating with israelis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the D8 and the agricultural  and urban issue focus could really be a goer. There are lots of ethical, justice and human issues there and a collaborative venture would at least produce some content of immediate benefit. they could even pull in one of the stans and go for a satellite launch.</p>
<p>but these things need political animation and to be linked to the rest of the ummah states.</p>
<p>The d8 was erbakan&#8217;s baby, and Erdogan is different from Erbakan. We&#8217;d need an alignment of epistemic political windows in a majority of the 8.</p>
<p>Its not so simple even with members of the 8. e.g how do you think a nigerian igbo non muslim would feel about contributing to d8 civilisational movement if he is also collaborating with israelis?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Islam Analysis(11): Change course on collaboration by Fuad</title>
		<link>http://www.muslim-science.com/islam-analysis11-change-course-on-collaboration/#comment-3999</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Athar,

Assalamoulaykum.

I agree with this but would like to add to the thought.

Collaborations are a costly way of not gettign much done.

Scientific creation cannot be isolated and dealt with in a technocratic manner, it needs to be embedded within cultural and artistic movements in societies. 

Came across this article on science vs scientism just now. http://www.nextstepforward.net/resources/science-vs-scientism-question-of-cultural-space/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Athar,</p>
<p>Assalamoulaykum.</p>
<p>I agree with this but would like to add to the thought.</p>
<p>Collaborations are a costly way of not gettign much done.</p>
<p>Scientific creation cannot be isolated and dealt with in a technocratic manner, it needs to be embedded within cultural and artistic movements in societies. </p>
<p>Came across this article on science vs scientism just now. <a href="http://www.nextstepforward.net/resources/science-vs-scientism-question-of-cultural-space/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nextstepforward.net/resources/science-vs-scientism-question-of-cultural-space/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Islam Analysis(10): Give science a social contract by Khawar Sohail</title>
		<link>http://www.muslim-science.com/islam-analysis10-give-science-a-social-contract/#comment-3998</link>
		<dc:creator>Khawar Sohail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely written Dr.Osama, but one thing which i feel is important and most relevant to the Topic here and which i believe is lacking in Pakistan in particular as i have experienced it myself is the nurturing a culture of Science at grass root level, something which is a distant dream at this time. The syllabus being taught is outdated and does not inspire learning, the teachers lack, training and motivation for economic reasons and the corruption in the education system, rot learning is the order of the day. The pedagogical approaches being used are now archaic.

By the time these students reach Universities and Colleges, they are already toeing a line which they have been made to toe and learning Science and doing Science becomes an alien phenomena for them. The educational environment stifles creativity and the teachers attitude is paternalistic. Science should impart a sense of curiosity and should be challenging. The scientific method which is the soul of the scientific process does not entail being able to pipette effectively or to make a spectrohotometric reading or run an NMR, rather it should enable to envsion, understand, interpret and critique , something which is hardly taught at our Universities.

I hail the concept of Social contract and your notion of making science more accessible and understandable to masses and believe that these are the avenues that we should should strive to perfect in Islamic countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely written Dr.Osama, but one thing which i feel is important and most relevant to the Topic here and which i believe is lacking in Pakistan in particular as i have experienced it myself is the nurturing a culture of Science at grass root level, something which is a distant dream at this time. The syllabus being taught is outdated and does not inspire learning, the teachers lack, training and motivation for economic reasons and the corruption in the education system, rot learning is the order of the day. The pedagogical approaches being used are now archaic.</p>
<p>By the time these students reach Universities and Colleges, they are already toeing a line which they have been made to toe and learning Science and doing Science becomes an alien phenomena for them. The educational environment stifles creativity and the teachers attitude is paternalistic. Science should impart a sense of curiosity and should be challenging. The scientific method which is the soul of the scientific process does not entail being able to pipette effectively or to make a spectrohotometric reading or run an NMR, rather it should enable to envsion, understand, interpret and critique , something which is hardly taught at our Universities.</p>
<p>I hail the concept of Social contract and your notion of making science more accessible and understandable to masses and believe that these are the avenues that we should should strive to perfect in Islamic countries.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Science and the Islamic World &#8211; The Quest for a Reproachment by Khawar Sohail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khawar Sohail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An wonderfully objective account of the prevalent ethos in the Muslim World, thank you Dr.Hoodbhoy for your contribution on the discourse on this very important matter of extreme relevance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An wonderfully objective account of the prevalent ethos in the Muslim World, thank you Dr.Hoodbhoy for your contribution on the discourse on this very important matter of extreme relevance</p>
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		<title>Comment on Muslim-Science.Com Recognised, Founder Named Contender for Prestigious International Award, Elected Fellow of World Technology Network by Adnan Ul-Hasan</title>
		<link>http://www.muslim-science.com/muslim-science-com-recognised-founder-named-contender-for-prestigious-award-elected-fellow-of-world-technology-network/#comment-3917</link>
		<dc:creator>Adnan Ul-Hasan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations Dr. Athar,

Its indeed a very good effort to let the global community know about the scientific developments in Muslim World. Hopefully, your high achievements will contribute more towards policy making in Muslim countries for science and technology innovations. 

Hopefully, you will win the award as well, keep it up.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Dr. Athar,</p>
<p>Its indeed a very good effort to let the global community know about the scientific developments in Muslim World. Hopefully, your high achievements will contribute more towards policy making in Muslim countries for science and technology innovations. </p>
<p>Hopefully, you will win the award as well, keep it up.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>Comment on Muslim-Science.Com Recognised, Founder Named Contender for Prestigious International Award, Elected Fellow of World Technology Network by zakria chughtai</title>
		<link>http://www.muslim-science.com/muslim-science-com-recognised-founder-named-contender-for-prestigious-award-elected-fellow-of-world-technology-network/#comment-3897</link>
		<dc:creator>zakria chughtai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CONGRATULATIONS! Feel very very proud to be a Pakistani!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CONGRATULATIONS! Feel very very proud to be a Pakistani!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Muslim-Science.Com Recognised, Founder Named Contender for Prestigious International Award, Elected Fellow of World Technology Network by Saif Ali Butt</title>
		<link>http://www.muslim-science.com/muslim-science-com-recognised-founder-named-contender-for-prestigious-award-elected-fellow-of-world-technology-network/#comment-3818</link>
		<dc:creator>Saif Ali Butt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Athar,

Congratulations.  My best wishes are always with you.  My hopes are even higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Athar,</p>
<p>Congratulations.  My best wishes are always with you.  My hopes are even higher.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Muslim-Science.Com Recognised, Founder Named Contender for Prestigious International Award, Elected Fellow of World Technology Network by Dr. Athar Osama founder of Muslim-Science.com recognized by WTN &#124; Green &#38; White</title>
		<link>http://www.muslim-science.com/muslim-science-com-recognised-founder-named-contender-for-prestigious-award-elected-fellow-of-world-technology-network/#comment-3813</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Athar Osama founder of Muslim-Science.com recognized by WTN &#124; Green &#38; White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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